In today’s “To the Contrary” podcast, The Atlantic’s David Frum joins me to try to make sense of the current political landscape, focusing on the incompetence and chaos within the Trump administration, the weirdness of RFK Jr., and the meltdowns of Kristi Noem and Pam Bondi.
We also dive into the public's shifting opinion on Trump, the Epstein scandal, the ongoing tariff wars, and the potential societal impacts of AI.
Don’t miss this: During our discussion Frum draws on his deep knowledge of history to highlight the dangers of subverting constitutional principles and the troubling normalization of racism in political discourse.
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Some highlights of our conversation
Frum compares Trump to King Charles I (who was beheaded)
meltdownsRFK Jr. says he snorted cocaine off of toilet seats. Frum and I discuss.
When outrage fails to shock. Trump defends his racist video.
Saturday dogs
Eli on the prowl, checking to see whether coyotes had visited.
