ICE has gone beyond mere cruelty. This is now repeated, gratuitous murder. I found Platner's pity party completely off-putting. I won't rest easy until he has officially submitted the paperwork. I don't trust this self-serving actor for a minute.
I know we’re not going to shut down the government over this latest killing, but where our legislative leaders ( Jeffries and Schumer) out there yelling that these ICE people had no body cam! That was one of the basic conditions that were being demanded to end the most recent government shutdown. No body cameras, than those ICE officers
immediately need to be removed and a full investigation opened. Democrats need to demand basic compliance with standard law enforcement procedures. This is not even a question of how we’re treating the undocumented( although if course that is the underlying reason for the action). At heart, this is an example of complete lawlessness. Where is the shouting? Where is the outrage?
This was almost inevitable, this bunch of thugs have been terrorizing this hispanic neighborhood for the last year. The app to track them was shut down so it's almost impossible to warn people. Everyone is on edge, some have thrown in the towel and left. This isn't the Houston that pulled together after Harvey, no resemblance at all.
I live in Maine. I watched Platner's farewell video. I think even less of him now. He blamed everyone but himself. He thinks he knows better than anyone else -- an I-alone-can-fix-it kind of guy. Sound familiar?
As part the reporting, I feel like it's important to know whether these victims were Trump voters. In part so people understand the full scope of the stupidity in America but also because our sympathy for these folks will surely be linked to whether they brought this nightmare upon themselves, despite the repeated warnings.
I'm also wondering who conservatives were worried about when they spoke often of the "jackboots of big government". Was it literally Jack and his boots they were talking about (in which case, mea culpa)? Because from my lowly perch, ICE looks like the very manifestation of jackbooted thugs unleashed upon people by their government, which is what I thought Republican-voting conservative-goobers were afraid of.
I'd prefer not to blame a murder victim for who they voted for. Let's focus on where the evil is: Trump, Miller, ICE, and the whole regime. Also, immigrants not yet naturalized can't vote.
Far too many Democrats continue their failure in recognizing that Bernie Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, with interests and objectives that frequently do not align with the best interests of the Democratic Party, particularly when it comes to building a national coalition of Democrats that will be required to effectively take on and defeat the Retrumplicans in Washington. Far too often, Democratic Socialists present or support progressive candidates of rigid, far-left ideology whose combative nature is targeted instead at more moderate and traditional Democrats who better represent the interests, values and political disposition of the broad base of regional-specific constituents that they serve.
Graham Platner is the most recent and obvious example - when finally facing the personal consequences that have resulted from an overwhelming abundance of inexcusable personal behavior, he has chosen to denigrate the Democratic Party and drag his feet in its efforts to identify and select his successor, rather than taking responsibility for his actions and expressing contrition for the inevitable problematic outcome that has come from them.
To have any chance of winning decisively in the fall, Democrats must learn important lessons from all this: to be a bit more pragmatic than ideological in the decision-making that lies ahead, and display a willingness to see with better objective clarity the pool of candidates that they will need to evaluate, nominate and vote for.
As this monk has indicated: it is left wing nuts and "woke stupidity" that aided and abetted the election of a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist for prez. Many folks would have voted dem, if they were not "scared" off by the "culture wars". Simple logic.
dsa is basically maga spelled with an extreme left perspective.
More Ice killings in Memphis are in the news today. We can only imagine the horrific conditions in the Detention Centers while every once in a while we hear about the lack of toilets, Overcrowding, lack or withholding meds and deaths. These things occurring in our USA are reviled by all people of good will. Stephen Miller has to be held accountable for the executive policies that allow torture and murder.
Another bad day. Another really bad day. It hurts me to see innocent people killed. I don't have a doubt in my mind that Araujo's death is a DHA impulsive, reactionary killing.
It's such a bad day you didn't even mention Trump's firing of the independent Election Assistance Commission. I don't know what their roles were but Trump seems to think they get in his way. I have to believe Trump has something sneaky to play in the midterms. We live in terrible times. Perhaps for the first time I'm really questioning whether our democracy survives this administration.
“People knock these candidates as too boring... But if they chose to get excited by — and spread excitement about — people who are actually good at beating Republicans, then Democrats would have a lot less trouble making those candidates seem exciting.”
Mr. Yglesias has it exactly right. Democrats are making the same fatal mistake the Republicans did: supporting a candidate they know is unsuitable, and perhaps even morally and cognitively incapable of holding office. With the help of a compliant media focusing on the wrong aspects of these candidates, they have learned nothing from what that playbook gave us with Donald Trump.
We can claim we need to "fight fire with fire," but that is just an excuse to justify bad behavior. The irony is that Democrats rightfully insist they want change. But how is it change if you’re simply copying the opposition? Following a bad example never makes things better. I will honestly admit that I, too, have fallen into the trap of supporting change for change's sake—a knee-jerk reaction born out of a desperate need to see this broken system change quickly. But blind desperation isn't a strategy.
Politics is a profession. Placing anyone into the highest seats of power without a modicum of state or equivalent experience is asking for trouble. True political prodigies do not exist in modern government. Instead, extreme partisanship has warped the system so badly that politicians now treat their donors—not the nation—as their tribe. This is a direct path to minority rule.
Look at the recent ICE killing in Houston. It hit me like a gut punch. They aren't changing; they are just getting better at hiding it, often with the help of a distracted or cooperative media. It seems they are now intentionally operating in red states like Texas, where local leadership refuses to hold them accountable. When the system stops demanding transparency, abuse finds the path of least resistance.
Ultimately, the citizenry must stand up. The protests we have seen so far should only be a precursor to what is to come. Trump has shown—despite his bullish bravado—that he does not handle resistance well, which is exactly why he needs to see it. We cannot let them distract us with Platner, or whatever other rabbit they pull from a hat next. If you want true change, it will have to come from us.
ICE has gone beyond mere cruelty. This is now repeated, gratuitous murder. I found Platner's pity party completely off-putting. I won't rest easy until he has officially submitted the paperwork. I don't trust this self-serving actor for a minute.
I know we’re not going to shut down the government over this latest killing, but where our legislative leaders ( Jeffries and Schumer) out there yelling that these ICE people had no body cam! That was one of the basic conditions that were being demanded to end the most recent government shutdown. No body cameras, than those ICE officers
immediately need to be removed and a full investigation opened. Democrats need to demand basic compliance with standard law enforcement procedures. This is not even a question of how we’re treating the undocumented( although if course that is the underlying reason for the action). At heart, this is an example of complete lawlessness. Where is the shouting? Where is the outrage?
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This was almost inevitable, this bunch of thugs have been terrorizing this hispanic neighborhood for the last year. The app to track them was shut down so it's almost impossible to warn people. Everyone is on edge, some have thrown in the towel and left. This isn't the Houston that pulled together after Harvey, no resemblance at all.
I live in Maine. I watched Platner's farewell video. I think even less of him now. He blamed everyone but himself. He thinks he knows better than anyone else -- an I-alone-can-fix-it kind of guy. Sound familiar?
Thank you for humanizing the victims of the ICE killings, Charlie. Obviously the gunmen did not.
You had me ROTFLMAO when you thought for one second that the Admin would qualify for "the benefit of the doubt." Nice one.
Really!? I live CA so I was not aware of what was going on in PA.
As part the reporting, I feel like it's important to know whether these victims were Trump voters. In part so people understand the full scope of the stupidity in America but also because our sympathy for these folks will surely be linked to whether they brought this nightmare upon themselves, despite the repeated warnings.
I'm also wondering who conservatives were worried about when they spoke often of the "jackboots of big government". Was it literally Jack and his boots they were talking about (in which case, mea culpa)? Because from my lowly perch, ICE looks like the very manifestation of jackbooted thugs unleashed upon people by their government, which is what I thought Republican-voting conservative-goobers were afraid of.
I'd prefer not to blame a murder victim for who they voted for. Let's focus on where the evil is: Trump, Miller, ICE, and the whole regime. Also, immigrants not yet naturalized can't vote.
It is absurd to think that a person driving away from an ICE stop - EVEN IF THEY ARE UNDOCUMENTED - should credibly face EXECUTION for it
I agree with Alex Wagner’s assessment of Graham Platner. The man is insufferable.
Far too many Democrats continue their failure in recognizing that Bernie Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, with interests and objectives that frequently do not align with the best interests of the Democratic Party, particularly when it comes to building a national coalition of Democrats that will be required to effectively take on and defeat the Retrumplicans in Washington. Far too often, Democratic Socialists present or support progressive candidates of rigid, far-left ideology whose combative nature is targeted instead at more moderate and traditional Democrats who better represent the interests, values and political disposition of the broad base of regional-specific constituents that they serve.
Graham Platner is the most recent and obvious example - when finally facing the personal consequences that have resulted from an overwhelming abundance of inexcusable personal behavior, he has chosen to denigrate the Democratic Party and drag his feet in its efforts to identify and select his successor, rather than taking responsibility for his actions and expressing contrition for the inevitable problematic outcome that has come from them.
To have any chance of winning decisively in the fall, Democrats must learn important lessons from all this: to be a bit more pragmatic than ideological in the decision-making that lies ahead, and display a willingness to see with better objective clarity the pool of candidates that they will need to evaluate, nominate and vote for.
Touche!
As this monk has indicated: it is left wing nuts and "woke stupidity" that aided and abetted the election of a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist for prez. Many folks would have voted dem, if they were not "scared" off by the "culture wars". Simple logic.
dsa is basically maga spelled with an extreme left perspective.
Why not MAAG: MY AMERICA is ALREADY GREAT?
More Ice killings in Memphis are in the news today. We can only imagine the horrific conditions in the Detention Centers while every once in a while we hear about the lack of toilets, Overcrowding, lack or withholding meds and deaths. These things occurring in our USA are reviled by all people of good will. Stephen Miller has to be held accountable for the executive policies that allow torture and murder.
As to the price tag for Trump's ego, don't forget to add the billions that the Iran war has cost. That was done for his legacy of conquest.
Another bad day. Another really bad day. It hurts me to see innocent people killed. I don't have a doubt in my mind that Araujo's death is a DHA impulsive, reactionary killing.
It's such a bad day you didn't even mention Trump's firing of the independent Election Assistance Commission. I don't know what their roles were but Trump seems to think they get in his way. I have to believe Trump has something sneaky to play in the midterms. We live in terrible times. Perhaps for the first time I'm really questioning whether our democracy survives this administration.
“People knock these candidates as too boring... But if they chose to get excited by — and spread excitement about — people who are actually good at beating Republicans, then Democrats would have a lot less trouble making those candidates seem exciting.”
Mr. Yglesias has it exactly right. Democrats are making the same fatal mistake the Republicans did: supporting a candidate they know is unsuitable, and perhaps even morally and cognitively incapable of holding office. With the help of a compliant media focusing on the wrong aspects of these candidates, they have learned nothing from what that playbook gave us with Donald Trump.
We can claim we need to "fight fire with fire," but that is just an excuse to justify bad behavior. The irony is that Democrats rightfully insist they want change. But how is it change if you’re simply copying the opposition? Following a bad example never makes things better. I will honestly admit that I, too, have fallen into the trap of supporting change for change's sake—a knee-jerk reaction born out of a desperate need to see this broken system change quickly. But blind desperation isn't a strategy.
Politics is a profession. Placing anyone into the highest seats of power without a modicum of state or equivalent experience is asking for trouble. True political prodigies do not exist in modern government. Instead, extreme partisanship has warped the system so badly that politicians now treat their donors—not the nation—as their tribe. This is a direct path to minority rule.
Look at the recent ICE killing in Houston. It hit me like a gut punch. They aren't changing; they are just getting better at hiding it, often with the help of a distracted or cooperative media. It seems they are now intentionally operating in red states like Texas, where local leadership refuses to hold them accountable. When the system stops demanding transparency, abuse finds the path of least resistance.
Ultimately, the citizenry must stand up. The protests we have seen so far should only be a precursor to what is to come. Trump has shown—despite his bullish bravado—that he does not handle resistance well, which is exactly why he needs to see it. We cannot let them distract us with Platner, or whatever other rabbit they pull from a hat next. If you want true change, it will have to come from us.