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The Silver Symposium's avatar

Let me put it like this: if Democrats vote to elect a Democrat, and centrists don't like that, they should perhaps consider that they're not as big a voice in their own party as they think. The issue with centrists continues to be that they demand that the party adhere only to their demands, and are continually frustrated when Democratic voters choose someone else.

Now, keep in mind, they haven't chosen anyone yet. But this critique, that centrists are the only voice that should be listened to, is partially why Biden's presidency failed. Over and over, centrists say that only they know the way forward, and over and over they're proven wrong.

They make a lot of excuses for this. But ultimately, if such a person is elected, it won't be for any reason other than voters wanted it. And if that's the case, then centrists need to decide what party they're a part of, and whether or not they are aware of the voters they actually have.

In Britain, there's a saying called 'hostage politics' which describes how Labour governs. They don't do anything their voters asked them to do, and instead go 'you have to vote labour, otherwise the Tories and Reform will win!' This basically treats politics as an endless hostage negotiation, where they have to swallow any and all policies no matter how against their principles in order to prevent Reform.

This is the tact that centrist liberals in America take. And ultimately, as we've seen, when that's done people will eventually vote for Trump. We know that, because after the centrist presidency of Joe Biden, who said 'no we can't' over and over, young voters defected to Trump. Their biggest complaint? That Democrats didn't do things and didn't represent their interests.

If Democrats choose someone who represents them, so be it. After all, the GOP continues to choose people who represent them, and it's worked out pretty well for them.

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

I just can't get worked up about NYC's candidate for mayor possibly being a bit of a lefty kook. It's NYC, not Milwaukee.

And in the bullet points of Third Way's concerns, all they did was outline and hand wring about what the GOP and the Fox Propaganda Hydra is going to say about all this. Who TF cares? Worrying about what the GOP is going to say all the time is what got the Dems into this mess in the first place.

News flash: the GOP and Fox are always going to operate in bad faith. The Dems waved the flag all over the campaign last fall and it was rebranded as a Commie Convention while Trump's rants about the Cat and Dog Buffet were recast as the ultimate in patriotism. No matter what the Dems do it will be shit all over as Anti American. Try something new: speak from the heart and actually be a human who believes something. All we have to do is reach the non cult members to end this MAGA nightmare.

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