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Angie's avatar

Great Piece Charlie, if really depressing....I can't type enough "sighs" to express how frustrating this all is and no one seems to know how to stop it.

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Steven Gold's avatar

I believe that Trump's Faustian bargain with Musk was "If you can keep me out of jail I will give you anything you want!"

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P.'s avatar

Oh grandpa you look so mean.

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Maria Chamberlain's avatar

Okay, this is disturbing. I understand totally how people are upset by this, but calls for civil disobedience and other violent responses are absurd! That will give Trump exactly what he is asking for - which is a chance to take over with violent action. DO NOT GIVE HIM that choice! Use your brains, people! Do NOT let this asshole destroy our country! We are stronger, smarter and more capable than he is. Remember that!

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Greg Florence's avatar

Apologize for posting this in a few places, but it was something I wanted to share more broadly.

I was incredulous about Mr. Musk’s claim that when he or DOGE make mistakes that “we’ll act quickly to correct any mistakes.” To be fair, though, I thought to myself, “If only there was a tool that could cull through vast amounts of data and public statements made by Mr. Musk that could make an assessment of whether my concerns are justified or not.” Fortunately, such tools exist. I asked Elon Musk’s own AI company (X.Ai or Grok), ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Microsoft Copilot, and Perplexity.ai to evaluate Mr. Musk’s statement about acting quickly to correct any mistakes. You can find the full results here ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cfkUKeDOQJ1w_uTd2Tu1yG78mzJGhqUo/view?usp=sharing ).

I found the response given by Mr. Musk’s own AI to be one of the more damning and insightful analyses, so I will share the full result below, but before doing that, I wanted to make one point. If any federal employee recklessly put out inaccurate or unsubstantiated information as Mr. Musk has done, that federal employee would justifiably be disciplined and would likely be fired. It is corrosive to the federal workforce when leaders do not model the standards that employees are expected to keep, standards that the American people deserve to have in their civil servants.

That opinion aside, here is the X.Ai response to the following prompt:

“On February 11, 2025, Elon Musk said

“Some of the things that I say will be incorrect and should be corrected. So nobody’s gonna bat a thousand. I mean, any you know, we will make mistakes, but we’ll act quickly to correct any mistakes.”

Based on his previous record of correcting false, inaccurate, or misleading things publicly, how often and how quickly do you think Elon Musk will publicly apologize for or correct false, misleading, or inaccurate statements he makes?”

X.Ai (Grok) Response

Based on the available information and public sentiment as reflected in posts on X and various news reports:

- **Frequency of Corrections:** Historically, Elon Musk has not frequently issued public corrections or apologies for false or misleading statements. Several web sources highlight that Musk's claims on his platform X, particularly those related to elections or other significant issues, have amassed billions of views without subsequent public corrections. Posts on X from users like @Naotagm and @aryafah suggest that Musk does not regularly correct his erroneous statements or apologize for misinformation he has spread.

- **Speed of Corrections:** When Musk does acknowledge errors, the speed of correction appears to vary. Some reports indicate that he might delete misleading posts rather than correcting them publicly, as noted in posts on X suggesting Musk hopes people will forget about the misinformation. There's also mention from users like @MrMorganSoCal indicating that Musk might correct the record after allowing misinformation to circulate for a period, which could be interpreted as not acting "quickly" in all instances.

Given this context, it seems unlikely that Musk will frequently or swiftly correct false, misleading, or inaccurate statements based on his past behavior. His statement from February 11, 2025, might suggest an intention to improve this aspect, but without a significant shift in his approach, the expectation would be that corrections might remain sporadic and not necessarily prompt. This is inferred from the pattern where his posts, especially those with significant influence or viewership, often go uncorrected or are only addressed under public pressure or in legal contexts, as seen in his SEC settlement over misleading tweets.

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Brooks R Susman's avatar

I'm a broken record. You describe our problems and those leading us into disaster, but by not prescribing how to respond...other than taking to the streets and calling our legislators (yelling at our Democrats to get stop relying on '26...impotence stinks!

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Maria Chamberlain's avatar

Okay, start complaining to your government, start filing complaints against everything- start supporting things that you like. start speaking out@! Get out there and say what you think!

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Cryptoanalytic's avatar

Mass civil disobedience is called for.

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Maria Chamberlain's avatar

NO that is NOT what is called for- What is call;ed for is mass unification and support for a unified government!

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Carol S.'s avatar

MAGA ideologues use a definition of "corruption" that does not include anything you describe here.

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Deborah A. Squires's avatar

A few thoughts.. it's obvious Musk owns Trump. He is the only person who could. He will pay for anything Trump needs or wants (the election funding was a small down payment). Just one ex. already announced--Musk will fund a primary challenge for any R who votes against his nominees/legislation. Oval photo op is all the evidence needed. Musk is the alpha, Time magazine got it exactly right. And Trump can never get rid of him. You can't extort the top extortionist or fire the man you need to write the checks.

The white board list you made of the recent MAGA bomb drops needs to be announced by D's daily when in session at 5pm. Choose (this will be hard) the top 5 that exploded, or previous radioactive fallout, each day. Speak for 5 minutes in halls of Congress, rotate speakers. Call it 5 at 5 or something catchy. D's have to get in front of the camera--they have to GRAB media attention DAILY. Someone said in silence democracies die. And their silence has been deafening. Charlie, if you can get someone's ear in Congress, hope you will suggest.

PS Great guests, hall of famers.. so glad you are podcasting..

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Maria Chamberlain's avatar

Absolutely agree! Musk is the monster that will take down the country if allowed to do so. Trump is not smart enough to do it himself, but he will be the conduit for Musk to do it because his damn ego will allow musk to do whatever he wants. :(

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NanceeM's avatar

A sentence without jail time for Bannon is no sentence at all. Rule of law is a joke. Speaking of jokes, I waited till the maximum age to claim Social Security. How much longer before Elon deems my monthly payments some form of corruption to be wiped out? We don't have a functioning country anymore.

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Lara's avatar

I think it’s weird how Musk uses his kid like he’s a prop. Not a fan.

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Mary's avatar

I know these are serious times and all, but the line about Rubio’s soul made me laugh out loud.

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Maria Chamberlain's avatar

sorry I missed that- I could really use a good laugh about now- can y0u give me a link?

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Randyzpdx's avatar

You are being highly unfair to ferrets and scorpion, sir!

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Rain Robinson's avatar

Auggie grew into his ears! Nice. Seeing the photos of the increasingly irrelevant, yet still dangerous psychopath, getting upstaged by the increasingly vengeful destroyer, fellow crackpot, psychopath, was fairly amusing. Fpotus looked seriously pissed. He must be wondering if he'll ever get more popular than MuskX now. I certainly never imagined we'd have the richest man on the planet become our de facto unelected, unconfirmed, unaccountable despot, rummaging through all our federal government computers for his own benefit, and our detriment. We will have only ashes left of the US when this administration gets overthrown. Rebuilding from scratch, and I'm sure it will happen, just not in my lifetime, will be interesting.

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Ycnay's avatar

Before anyone gets excited for Trump getting dumped, something to ponder is the line of succession. If Trump doesn't make it, the next Domino is Vance, then the Creepy Speaker, then isn't it the fossilized Grassley? I'm not seeing a lot of room for improvement.

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Rain Robinson's avatar

Definitely not excited about the succession-ists. They are all into the authoritarian takeover. Every single Republican is complicit in this. They all need to be replaced by people who treasure liberty for all, not just freedoms for the wealthiest.

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Carol S.'s avatar

I had the exact same thought about Auggie and his ears.

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Merc's avatar

Leon Skum dropping by the office with one of his kids to see how his manager is doing

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DPerk53's avatar

The destruction of democracy is the main point of this administration. By flooding the zone with all sorts and types of questionable actions the goal is to break the system. As long as no Republicans stand up to the building autocracy we are in a horrible situation. Trump 2.0 has allowed Musk and Putin to become the directors of our fate!

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NanceeM's avatar

I think the goal has been achieved. Now we're in overkill territory.

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